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Fire Strikes Obama's Rented Vineyard Vacation House

A small fire broke out early Tuesday morning at the Blue Heron Farm estate in Chilmark.

 

The Martha's Vineyard vacation home of President Barack Obama and his family during the summers of 2009 and 2010 caught fire in the early morning hours today.

Obama is expected to vacation there once again next week, as an advance team of Secret Service Agents are camped out on the Island and the White House Press Corps. has booked a block of rooms at the Mansion House in Vineyard Haven—a sure sign to Islanders their famous guest will be arriving soon.

At approximately 3:31 a.m. today, members of the Chilmark Police Department, Chilmark Fire Department, Tri-Town Ambulance and West Tisbury Fire Department responded to a report from an alarm company of a fire at the Blue Heron Farm, located at 41 Cobb’s Hill in Chilmark.

Chief Brian A Cioffi of the Chilmark Police Department said the fire occurred on the first floor of the five-bedroom main house of the 28.5 acre Blue Heron Farm estate at Tiah's Cove.

The fire was mostly extinguished when first responders arrived.

A joint investigation by the Chilmark Police Department and the Chilmark Fire Department determined that the cause of the fire was an outdoor cooking grill that was left on overnight. The heat of the grill ignited the side of the residence. The building sustained minor, exterior damage. 

The residence was rented at the time. All occupants were able to evacuate safely and without incident.

The vast estate, which spans the border between Chilmark and West Tisbury, is owned by William and Mollie Van Devender of Jackson, Miss.

Obama reportedly paid $50,000 per week to rent the property in 2009.

Related Topics: Barack Obama, Obama on Martha's Vineyard, and Presidential Vacation

Di

7:15 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Peolpe have complained about all the past presidents--not just Obama. Don't get so
sensitive. DB

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RA ACK

8:01 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

You people are pathetic. Vacation or not, it costs thousands of dollars to move POTUS around, no matter if it is DC, or MV. Take a look at how much any president ages after their term in office, trust me, he is not getting a vacation. criticize all you want, or just man up and run for office.

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Dan

8:13 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

The huge debt was racked up by the previous president. Compare the incumbent's increased debt to his predecessor's increased debt. Do the math...

The rich should get taxed equally if not more than the middle class person. This country's GDP needs fixing. Cut spending and raise taxes. It is simple economics. GDP=Consumption+Investment+Government Expenditures+(Exports-Imports)

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Dan Crabtree

1:07 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Your an idiot..democrats controlled both the congress and senate since 2007..and who else but democrats ran up the deficet..watch and learn democrat

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Wayne

1:35 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Hey Jules...check you facts on the deficit when Bush took over from Clinton! As far as Democrats and Republicans....they ar ALL to blame....if they were doing there jobs instead of trying to be politically correct AND looking for votes, we wouldn't be in this mess....They are ALL TO BLAME!

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'Milly Combs

4:33 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Jules, You really need to do your homework, there was no deficit when Bush took over from the Clinton years! 10 Trillion dollars is what Bush sunk us too!
Even reasearched it for you, go read up some. http://www.factcheck.org/2008/02/the-budget-and-deficit-under-clinton/

Larry Stalker

8:33 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

What happened to Camp David for Vacations? We are still paying to maintain that location aren't we?

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Vanessa Collier

1:22 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

The pres. doesn't have 2 vacation where u tell him 2. U don't own him.

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CHARLES FINCH

9:17 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

After you pay your rent.. You don;t have anything left,so how can you pay for anything.Do you have a job what do you make $20,000 a year if that ,so it can't be we doing the maintain LOL

L. Kirk

8:40 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

I'm just saying people take vacation, it's not just an Obama thing.

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David Adkins

10:11 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

I can't afford a vacation like he takes because we are paying for his.

Mike

9:15 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

People, get real, quit trying to blame the Prez for each and everything that comes along. Don't you get it? It isn't him,, it's us each and every one of us,, we are the ones that elect then re-elect Congressional members that squander our tax dollars and spend us into oblivian. The Prez does not and cannot enact even one cent of cost increase without Congressional approval. If your uncertain about that I suggest you pull your heads up out of the sand, and restudy your basic government course you had way back in highschool, look in the mirror people, their is the demon behind all of problems,, you don't like what's going on, then do something, vote out those that spend spend spend. Oh wait,, they are the ones that get your local freebies and enhancements to your state and communities,,,,,,face it, we want all of this for where we dwell and have others pay for it, we just don't want our neighboring states to have it,,,,,,

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David Adkins

10:16 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

sounds like obama-wants everything and have us pay for it.

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Bonni

11:58 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Mike, you are forgetting about Obama Care - his idea and voted in by a Liberal Congress. Remember Pelosi, we have to vote it in to see what's in it. What a crock.
As far as his getting elected, too many of the people that voted him in did not care about policies, they wanted a free ride. People who vote should be required to take an IQ test.

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Dan Crabtree

1:20 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Yes he can and has.almost 4 trillion in two and one half years..obama care now projected to reach some eight to ten trillion in real cost to the taxpayers of america...hummm should be some way to blame this on bush..democrat theology.

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Wayne

1:55 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Right on Mike!!! We should vote them all out! Unfortunately the voters say "my guy is doing a good job its the others" and almost all of them get re-elected. Vote them out...show them that it is a privledge not a career. The good ones can always run for office again in the next election....

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CHARLES FINCH

4:13 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

well said. Learn your Goverment. So you know congressional pass the law not the president. thank you

L. Kirk

9:20 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Man I go to work. True winner. Jeans skinny. Like Squidward.

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Georgia Smith

9:23 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

I believe if you check your facts you'll discover the taxpayers only pay for official business. The president pays for anything else out of his own money. He receives a salery. And he pays for anything he wants from that salery...

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David Adkins

10:18 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

boy-are you brainwashed-he pays for nothing as long as he is in office-we pay it all.

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Wayne

1:56 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

He has an expense account as well as ALL of our other elected officials.

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Abigail Louise

4:29 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Any time the President travels, the location must be scouted and secured and then protected during the time the President is there. Camp David is already set up as a secure site. When the President vacations there (or at his private ranch -- which was already secured), the cost to the taxpayers is a tiny fracture of what it is when the President borrows/rents a house from friends. Advance teams go out weeks ahead of time and all their expenses are covered by the taxpayers.

ray kruzick

9:40 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Whatever happened to Camp David for a get-away? It was good enough for other presidents and probably cost a lot less to protect the president.
This POTUS is and has never been qualified to hold the office and proves it more and more everyday. We need to send him and his fraud wife back to wherever they came from before it's too late for America!

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Nicole Brisson

3:30 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

President Bush went to Crawford, Texas - a million-dollar property that he owned with his fortune. President George H.W. Bush went to HIS million-dollar property in Kennebunkport, ME. This president does not OWN a private estate with caretakers and service people - he goes on vacation and rents a place, like most people. The expense of protecting the president is just the same in Texas or Maine as it is on Martha's Vineyard.

sheila hill

9:49 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

I thought his job as President pays him a salary and his salary pays for his vacation trips. You work, you save and you pay for your vacations. We have always taken care of our Presidents. It's just that we hear more about President Obama then of any other President. Our current situation we are in is due to over spending in Federal and State government agencies and in our personal lives. I know I worked for the State of Georgia for 28 years and I saw how they waisted tax dollars. The current Republicans in Congress current agenda is to make this President look bad and it doesn't matter at what cost to them. They don't even want to pay more in taxes when they know they can afford it. The rich get richer and the poor get poor. The way it keeps going there will no middle class. If the Republicans really want to help then why don't they vote for a pay cut.

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David Adkins

10:23 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

most of my friends that are black are against obama as I am-I am not prejudice - I have a half black daugter and a half Korean daughter-but they need to get rid of obama and clean house in government also.

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s brown

11:37 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

i can see you worked for the government >>> " I know I worked for the State of Georgia for 28 years and I saw how they waisted tax dollars" << your words. the word is wasted* not waisted. and it looks like you WASTED your education. and blaming the republicans is a joke. it's government as a whole that has WASTED our tax monies. and stop blaming the rich. they pay MOST of the taxes already. 50% of our population pays none!!! and really, do you think all companies are owned by republicans? learn a few facts about what is actually taking place. stop with the talking points.

hazmaire

10:00 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

I believe everyone should pay for their own vacation, that said, Why should taxpayers pay for the presidents. I could take 50 vacations on $50,000. I would love to travel all around the world and use lame excuses as to why I have to go there, as long as it is on someone elses dime. The lady was right, the other presidents mostly used Camp David or their own homes to vacation in and that didn't cost $50,000 a week. Our childrens grandchildren will be paying for the debt this president has run up. I was taught not to spend money you don't have, It is simple, stop giving money away to people who live off the government, other countries who hate us, someone elses wars, build orphanages for kids people have who can't afford them for the simple reason to get money from the government to support the whole family so they don't have to get a job. My mother in law lived in one until she was 18 and she went right to work and made a good life for herself. She donated to that orphanage for the rest of her life. They taught value of ones life and the love of god which she lived by. As long as there are handouts, there will be worthless people there to get them.

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SAM

10:05 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Funny how so many are so misinformed....the majority of the people in this country cannot see the decline of the US .... sad, sad, when will they take off their blinders and realize how much damage is being done RIGHT NOW, and stop trying to put the blame on any past administration...we need to work to get back up not CHANGE to watching the fall of our society. Look at what is happening NOW not pass the buck to bush, clinton, or any past president. The seriousness of the decline and fall of our ecomony is happening NOW .... start taking care of the elderly, get deadbeats off their butts and create jobs, take back what we so freely gave away with NAFTA.. Wake up America...before it is too late, and we are heading in that direction now. I pray God has mercy on us.

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Kala

10:32 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Kala
I don't mind the first family taking a vacation. What I do mind is that he takes, his mother-in-law, friends, brother and family and the "immigrant aunt" that is still taking from the Government. I do not have money to go on vacation and waste all the fuel that people are supposed to be conserving. Stay at the White House. You can vacation there. You won't be close to boutiques for Mitchelle, but the designers can come to the white house. Garden, healthy eating, go to .......she pays $1000 plus for tennis shoes!!!!!

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Anon

11:44 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

The immigrant aunt is sure a pisser isnt it? That one makes me more mad than all of it.

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Dan Crabtree

1:13 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

And used two 747"s for that last extravagant vacation..after all you need to take your friends along..

samantha

10:40 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

I have a prayer request. There's a lady I've known forever. She's very sick. On top of that, she's being abused by those she has given everything to. Lies about her abound, and seem to come from all sides. Just breaks my heart. Seems there's nothing I can do alone. But maybe, if we join in and we can lift her up. She's well over 200 years old, but way too young to die. Her name is America... and I love her.

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RB Smith

10:48 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

I am so glad that my money is being used to pay so much for a vacation for someone, cause I know I can't afford one for myself!

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RB Smith

10:49 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

I am so glad that someone is using my money to go on a vacation, because I sure can't afford to take one myself

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samantha

11:01 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Does anybody realize that everything has to do with the money that's being spent right now? Yes the past pres. Went on vaca's blah blah blah. But Obama is the one that's suppose to step up to plate & NOT do the same things the past presidents have done! I'm sorry their poor little vacation house caught fire! But come one 50K for rent for one week! That's just ridiculous! That's almost double what I make in a freaking year! And no I do not get benefits from any government program, and I'm raising 2 small children on my wages by myself!! With no hand outs! If I can do it, & still struggle to survive, so can anybody else. And with the "bad economy" it hasn't even effected me cause I've been living the same way for 7yrs. And Sheila, it has absolutely nothing to do with his race! (Which by the way, he's not just "black") I have black in me & I don't like him either! That's the only reason he was voted in to begin with! Had nothing to do with his education or his abilities as a pres. Black people that had NEVER voted before registered to vote just for him. Now in a way, that doesn't seem like people really cared if he was qualified or not!

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Tom S

11:04 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Can't wait to vote in 2012!! Throw the BUMS out!!!!!

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Tom S

11:07 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

I voted for Obama in 2008 to prove that I am not a racsist. In 2012 I am voting for someone else to prove that I am not stupid.

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nafb

3:35 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Well, you may not be stupid, but you sure can't spell...

casjane

11:12 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

The American people aren't taking vacations anymore except maybe in their own back yards grilling out. My sister was lucky enough to go to Alaska on vacation a month ago and she said you hardly see any Americans out and about, mostly people from, Japan, China and Arabs. We don't have money for that anymore. Instead of OB spending all that money to rent that place he'd better start saving it back because I think he's going to need it when he gets voted out of office.

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casjane

11:21 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

He has a lot of nerve telling us there have to be cut backs and threatening the seniors on SS. Then he has the gall to bother our fighting men and women and their families with the fear of no paychecks, I'm sure they have enough to worry about and at the same time he lives high on the hog while he expects his people to give up things. He thinks he's a king. It makes me sick to see how he and his family squander their ill gotten paycheck. He should be fired like anyone else for not doing his job properly.

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MARCIA SMITH

11:28 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

When Bush spent most art of his presidency on vacation or at Camp David flying back and forth, nothing was heard from Repubs about the cost. If Obama used Camp David , Repubs would complain about it. Because they rarely use it, Repubs complain about that also. The Obamas have made it a point to use their own funds for their vacations. Would you prefer that the President buy a ticket and fly commercial leaving the Secret Service home or never go on a vacation? One deluded Republ posted that Clinton left Bush with a 6 trillion dollar debt (excuse me, I believe that it was a surplus that Bush inherited from Clinton). Now you want to ignore Bush's ravaging of the country's economy for eight years and complain that Obama caused us to now have a 9 trillion dollar debt. Repubs try to pretend that Bush and his war buddies did not slash, burn and rape the country's coffers to get obscenely rich off an offensive war. There are very few wealthy Repubs that don't have some type of sommer home. Obama has a summer home and deserves a vacation like everybody else in this country. Everything the President does doesn't come out of the taxpayers' pockets. In reading these posts, it really amazes me just how sick and insane Repubs have become. I can understand wealthy Repubs that operate only on greed and power, but I can't understand the working or middle class Repubs that continue to back Repub policies (messing with Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid) that also hurt them.

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MURRY

4:25 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Lady, what flavor Koolaid are you drinking? Do you have any clue as to how much debt Obama has racked up in 2 1/2 years?
By taking another vacation, after telling us on national TV, that we have to EAT OUR PEAS, is a kick in the ass to Americans who are struggling just to pay their bills and eat. And sorry, but he doesn't foot the bill for Air Force One, to haul his ass and his entire family to some $50,000.00 a week vacation spot. YOU, obviously have more money than sense ,to not think that spending that kind of money, for a one week vacation isn't insane. Do you think that him wanting you to eat your peas then doing things like this sets an example for the US or the rest of the world? Sounds like you have been out on the golf course with Obama, rubbing elbows and eating that caviar and drinking champagne instead of the peas the rest of us are being told to eat. People like you make me want to puke and your one of the reasons this ingnorant jerk is in the White House to begin with. God help your stupid ass!

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Dave

4:25 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Wow! I knew there were some stupid people out there, but you really take the cake!

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Abigail Louise

4:33 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

You need to educate yourself on the difference between the budget and the national debt before you enter the blame game. You just make yourself look like an idiot.

Second, Obama was willing to withhold Social Security checks. The Republicans were not.

dee

11:31 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Only us the american people can make the change - make your vote count in 2012 -
I think we need to be taking care of our american poor before sending money overseas - and quit handing out benefit for people that are qualified to work just dont because of the money they can receive from the state

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MO

11:34 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

You guys are such idiots. Have you all forgot that all presidents recieve paychecks? They can afford to take trips just like anyone else. People need to stop blaming everyone for some of their own faults. I think if people lived within their means and learned the value of a dollar from day one, they too can take vacations

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casjane

2:15 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

The pres. paycheck is 400,000 a year. I think that's a gross overpayment. He thinks he's too good to stay at Camp David like all the other pres's. did. He acts like he's too far above them. The job has really gone to his head. It's time for the citizens to clean house and take out the trash.

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Abigail Louise

4:35 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Six weeks at $50K a week on a salary of $400K. Don't you wish you could afford a vacation costing 75% of your pretax salary?

Anon

11:40 am on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Why is this news? WHY?????????????????

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Mary Andries

12:09 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

God bless all of you who are speaking up! This president is unlike any I have ever seen. He is waging economic jihad against America. He wants us all on food stamps and welfare. He is a proponent of a One World Government and wants to see the great USA humbled. He is not even a citizen, judging by the fact that he been using a stolen Social Security number, never registered with the Selective Service Board (a fraudulent 2008 form has appeared, however), and all of these phony birth certificates. All of this will come out after he's gone, but where will America be?

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MURRY

12:34 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

By the time he is out of office (if that even happens), our country will be down the toilet and in the sewer.

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casjane

2:22 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Well I was wondering if anyone else knew about that phony SSN. Mr. Trump wasn't off base at all. I was all for him exposing OB for the fraud and crook that he is. Too bad the people crucified him and OB had a laugh at his expense. At least he had enough guts to question his credentials. Like you I also hope the truth will finally come out but I doubt if we'll ever hear of it because they won't want anyone to know he made a fool of us.

MURRY

12:36 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

$50,000.00 is more than I make in a year and a half, yet he blows that in one week? Doesn't look like Obummer is eating his PEAS, more like CAVIAR and expensive CHAMPAGNE!

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Jennie VanWormer

12:40 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Of course Chelsea Clinton's wedding was paid by all of us...

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Joan

12:49 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Sheila Hill
You were all over the place with your blame for everyone but Obama. Using race against whites while blaming them for being racist! Obama did not even win the Primary Election against Hillary Clinton, so he has no right to be in the White Houise, even though Bilderberg was able to pull off the collapse of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac(which was I believe was created to throw the race) McCain was ahead until this housing crisis conveniently happened. I don't care what color a President is, I just care about his intentions, and they aren't good. by the way check out just what a vacation for the Obama's really costs the taxpayers.

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Les Hendrickson

12:57 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Rich people can't cook. A good example is this unintentional, yet ignorant, fiasco. Most of us would be concerned about using up gas and would automatically shut it down for money saving reasons. Rich idiots like these, of course, wouldn't concern themselves with such a mundane matter. Pocket change. Humph! Let the peasants shut it off!

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Joan

1:01 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Sheila-You are playing the race card while condemning whites for being racists. Listen to Nancy goodwin and Mary Andries they are on to him. He is using the blacks, hispanics, Unions and every other group he can. Why don't you check out Bilderbergers and you will flip out. Obama probably never attended a meeting but you can bet you britches Tim Geithner did. They will probably get him into office again because they can buy votes, steal votes, rough up for votes, bus people to several different locations to vote over and over again, and every thing else you can imagine, but they need him in for four more years to completely destroy the U.S. HE IS A CREATED CANDIDATE TO DO JUST WHAT HE IS DOING!

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Bob Rosetti

1:04 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Does this moron have an idea what the American citizens are going through due to what he alone has done to this country since taking office? I think he knows and just doesn't care. How come people complained constantly about Bush going to Camp David but it seems ok for Obama to waste tons of money taking lavish vacations which, yes, does cost the American taxpayers money. ( air-force one, secret service etc) If you did a lousy job at work you would be fired. He does a lousy job and some still foolish are trying to protect him. Wake up or we will have this clown still in the white house come 2012

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1BrianWorkman1

2:41 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Make it a Law that you have to wait 15 days before lighting an out door cooking grill, better known by the peeons as a Barbi-Q!!

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casjane

2:46 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

I don't understand something. We have seen how people in other countries have revolted and overthrown or are in the process of overthrowing their leaders because they are tired of the way things are going. Why isn't something like this happening here? You may say because it's a more civilized democratic society but that doesn't really hold water. The people here are just mad enough and I think if OB gets re-elected there may be a revolution here in this country.

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MURRY

4:30 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

I think it's just a matter of time before we start seeing it here. Some days I feel like starting a revolution myself.

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Wayne

4:33 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Watch what you say Murray, REMEMBER....Big Brother is watching.

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Linda

4:36 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Casjane that would fall completely in his plans. He would love to have a crisis where the government would swoop in and have to declare marshall law and confiscate the weapons of the American people. God help us then! He can not get re-elected.

Judith Marlowe

3:19 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Let's see what is the total number of vacations our First Family has taken this year! Now $50,000 for a week's vacation. Following this vacation I expect the First Lady will appear in one of her $49.99 dresses to show us how to economize in this economy.

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ulyingdemonrat

3:19 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Geez - demonrats have had the WH for 2 1/2 years and they still blame GWB. If B.O. (yea, that's right 'bad odor') can't handle the job, he shouldn't of taken it in the first place. Once you relieve your predecessor, it's yours - does no good to blame the past because you can't change it.

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Allybaby

3:43 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

I just happened upon this site and am absolutely shocked by the ignorance and racism. Obama is the best president we've had in a long time although he inherited an extremely bad situation - just for starters, two wars in foreign places. Can't you people read? count? think??

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Anon

4:00 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Read, count, think? FIrst of all, how old are you? 14? He is the worst president we have had period. In my lifetime he is the worst I have seen and I was born when JFK was President. He is worse than Carter and that is huge! He is in way over his head and needs to step down and let a real American run this country.

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MURRY

4:33 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Well Allybaby, you should fit right in on this site then. Welcome aboard, one more IGNORANT and racist member has just joined in!

Linda

4:12 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

I can wait for the Barack H. Obama movie to come out on OCTOBER 12, 2012! Now let me see, why does that make me feel a little uneasy ? Oh that's right it's a few weeks before the presidential election. I hate Barack, Michele, Hollywood, and the corrupt lame stream media. A journalist's job is to protect the people against a corrupt government. (I would like to remind you we have one now) I said hate and I never use that word, but I am watching my wonderful country deteriorate some everyday since this commi has been in office. I too believe like Sarah this is not human errors, but all this mess is done by design. These are all very scary people that do not have our best interest in mind. All about power. We will never change anything unless we get term limits. No pensions for these fools after 1 term. Wish I could find a job that guarantees me a pension after 6 years! Sweet! Great just heard the "GOVERNMENT IS TAKING CONTROL OF REPOSSESSED HOMES THAT ARE OWNED BY GOVERNMENT OWNED BANKS! PLANS ARE TO TAKE THE HOMES OWNED BY FANNIE AND FREDDIE AND TURN THEM INTO RENTAL PROPERTIES!" Anyone that does not believe he is a socialist/communists is naieve. Are there tidal waves in Martha's Vinyard? (relax just kidding! :-))lol

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Bemused

4:26 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

$50,000 a week in 2009 just to rent??? Hell I bought a condo for half that, BOUGHT IT!! This President really knows how to relate to Joe the Plumber allrightie.

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Anon

4:27 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

As he goes off on his one hundreth vacation of the year, "EAT YOUR PEAS" !

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L. Kirk

4:36 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

To all those saying you can't take a 50K vacation like Obama, you're right! You're not rich, the average American isn't, and never will be. Obama was wealthy before he was elected. He can afford it. Stop voting for policy that helps those in a position that you will likely never be in. You all have been sold an ideology that I should protect the views of the affluent, just in case I get there one day. You won't get there. Vote for policy that is for the betterment of the US people. Like unemployment extension, rich people don't need that so they cast it down, but those of you on this site commenting will need it if you become unemployed, so why vote against it because some fool in a suit tells you it costs you so much. Voting for Medicare cuts work against you not for you! Voting for any type of tax cap on the rich works against you not for you! Wake up! Vote for the issues that affect you not the ones that some dummy screaming on a news site tells you is the right thing for the American people. You think they sound so passionate, they do but it's not because they want to protect America, they want to protect what's in their wallets, not your wallets. Get a grip on reality.

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L. Kirk

4:44 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

And SN, all those who say oh Obama is dining on my dime, let's just say you make upwards of 50k a year, you would pay, with no dependents and no deductions at tax season, even though this isn't the case for most working Americans, upwards of 15K for federal, state, FICA,SS , whatever. GOP'ers must not be that good at math, looks like you fell way short of paying for this vacation you all are griping about paying for.

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Abigail Louise

5:49 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Huh. Your math only works if there is only one taxpayer and Obama pays for the rest of the costs of his vacation. I must be horrible at math because I always thought that anything the Federal Government paid for came out of taxpayer money or borrowings which theoretically will be paid back with taxpayer money. So you're saying that if the White House chef makes more than I pay in taxes, then taxes don't pay his salary. Please explain in terms that my simple mind can grasp. I don't understand your math.

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Carol

6:52 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

casjane, I do not believe that Mrs. Clinton picks up after The Big MO.

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Carol

7:50 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Mary, He dosent deserve a paycheck let alone an all expense paid luxury vacation for himself and his brood. 2012 cannot come soon enough. Time to elect a president who possesses leadership qualties..........SAVE AMERICA..........NOBAMA2012.

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Wayne

8:00 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

You watch....if he doesn't have a strong enough opponent, he will be re=elected....then WATCH OUT if there is anything left of this country by then.

Wayne

8:18 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

"Bar Stool Economics
1. Bar Stool EconomicsDavidR.Karerschen,PhD Professor of EconomicsUniversity of Georgia
2. Partying and Payment
* 10 Men go to a bar to drink some beer
* The tab for all 10 = $100
* They are good friends and
* decide to allocate payment
* For the bill based on
* Current US tax law (2008).
3. Payment of the Beer Tab
* Under the current tax law the payment for the tab would be:
* 1-4 would pay $0
* The 5 th man would pay $1
* The 6 th man would pay $3
* The 7 th man would pay $7
* The 8 th man would pay $12
* The 9 th man would pay $18
* The 10 th man would pay $59
4. Happy with Allocation
* All of the men are happy with the situation. It accounts for the financial ability for all. All agree to the terms that the situation presents.
5. Reduction in the Bar Tab
* After a period of time, the bar owner is quite happy with the situation and announces that there will be a 20% reduction in their total bar tab.

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Wayne

8:22 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

6. How to Share the Savings?
* The men agreed to pay their bill the same way that they were paying previously.* Men 1-4 continued to drink for free
* But a dispute arose as to how to share the windfall of the 20% reduction of he bar tab.
7. Fair Share???
* Since 6 men paid for the entire bar tab, they realized that the $20 dollar savings should be divided equally.This would result in a reduction of $3.33 per person
* This would result in the 5 th and 6 th man being PAID to drink beer.That is not exactly fair.
8. Possible Solution?
* The bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by roughly the same percentage amount that and calculated the following bill tab for each;
9. A Solution with Savings?
* Men 1-4 would continue to pay ZERO
* The 5 th man, like the first 4 would pay ZERO,(a 100% savings) * The 6 th man would pay $2 instead of $3 a 33% savings)
* The 7 th man would pay $5 instead of $(a 28% savings)
* The 8 th man would pay $9 instead of $12 (a 25% savings)
* The 9 th man would pay $14 instead of $18 (a 22% savings)

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Wayne

8:24 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

10. Value to each person?
* The 10th man would now pay $49 instead of $59 (a savings of 16% - the lowest savings of all the men)
* All six paying men are better off than before the discount in the bar tab. * The first 4 men continued to drink for FREE.
11. Better Off Discussion?
* Once outside the restaurant the men began to compare their savings.
* “ I only got a dollar out of the $20 savings”, the sixth man pointed out. He points to the 10 th man and says “but he got $10”.
* “ Yeah, that is right” said the 5 th man, “I only saved a dollar too. It is unfair that he got 10 times more than me!”.

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Wayne

8:24 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

12. Better off???
* That is true, shouted the 7 th man. Why should he get $10 back when I got only $2? The wealthy get all of the breaks!”
* “ Wait a minute”, the first 4 men yelled. “We did not get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!”
13. Populist Response
* The nine men surrounded the 10 th and beat him up.
14. New Outcome?
* The next night the 10 th man didn't show up for drinks, so the 9 men sat down and had their beers without him.
* But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill.
15. This is the current US Tax Code
* Ahh… that boys, and girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction.
* Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy and they may just not show up anymore.
* In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.

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Judy Wolfe

8:44 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Thank you for that input! When you do not have income, you pay no tax. Therefore any tax increase does not affect you, and you can continue with your entitlement attitude. If you have gone to school, worked hard, earn a good living, you are forced to pay taxes in order to support those who do not work. Talk about resentment. If you want to live for free, please go somewhere else, I understand the Palestinians are always looking for other folks to join them in mooching off of host countries. The wealthy pay taxes, and those who make a modest wage do so as well. Those who complain the loudest about not having programs are usually the people who have learned how to milk the system instead of working to better themselves. Well people, the cow has gone dry. Complain all you want, but during the depression people would travel across the country for the hopes of a job. That would never happen now! Can you imagine these people digging out the Panama Canal by hand now? They would be too busy complaining racial injustice. Get off the pitty pot. The American way is to work hard and success will find you. Dont complain because your satellite on your section 8 housing is not working. If you cannot afford to feed yourself why should I provide you with cable or satellite. Why should you have a cell phone? What are you teaching your children? Oh thats right, you are not. You expect the teachers to do all of your dirty work. Take some responsibility.

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Anon

8:47 pm on Wednesday, August 10, 2011

Judy, I hate nothing worse than to hear people that do not work say that the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. Annoying!!!! The beauty of the US OF A is that anyone can go from poor to rich!

Anon

3:54 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Obama has a do as I say, not as I do attitude! Eat your peas!

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nafb

3:55 pm on Thursday, August 11, 2011

Most of you are incredibly shortsighted and blinded by the hatred that has divided this country. Our current troubled situation lies at the feet of every president and Congress since the '50s. The U.S. started SPENDING without an eye toward the future. We were the best, the strongest, the richest, and spending (supposedly) was what took us toward those goals. The CONGRESS is mostly to blame for this mess - we ELECT our Congressmen and Senators to represent us in government, yet you all criticize the President, who is one human being. The salaries, expense accounts, health insurance plans & pensions for all U.S. Congressmen is outrageous. Just yesterday Congressman Eric Cantor of NY (the guy who's been all over the news blocking the budget talks) was in Edgartown buying a dozen cupcakes(not peas) and then he left the building and got into a white SUV with a FOUR-PERSON SECURITY DETAIL. And how much do you think that cost? Then multiply it by every member of Congress and THEN complain about Obama's lifestyle. I would love for just one of you (I would decline, thank you) to stand in the shoes of any American president for two days running - and then let us know if this guy doesn't deserve one ten-day respite a year. By the way, Obama is NOT on a real "vacation" while he's here - he is constantly working except for the few excursions he takes with his family which are spread all over the media and make it seem like he's living the life. Pathetic how divided we are.

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